Ever since my previous post about buying & trying out for the first time a Sony a7rII I’ve had a lot of people asking me how I found the camera at weddings. Rather than rush in with an opinion, I thought I’d spend a few months actually using the camera in real life wedding situations. I think there’s enough reviews of how well it can capture a brick wall. ;)
I feel I need to give some context here, as anyone who even slightly praises anything Sony is quickly labeled a Sony fanboy (fangirl!). I’ve shot Nikon all of my professional life. Since 2012 I have exclusively used the D4 and then added then D4S on its release. Carrying these two monsters around all-day was taking its toll on my back, so when Nikon announced the d750 I placed my order straight away. Unfortunately, it didn’t measure up to my expectations. The difference in quality between the D4 files & the D750 ones was staggering, especially colours and focus were a bit step down from what I was used to. I couldn’t quite get over it and within 8 weeks I had sold the D750 on. So, I don’t think I am biased towards any brand or particular camera, and I certainly don’t form biased opinions on equipment JUST because I have purchased something.
Then along comes the Sony A7r2 – a tiny camera boasting claims of fixing the issues dogging the first generations, faster focus, no shutter shock, good lowlight performance… On paper, this thing seemed too good to be true. So four months and 15 weddings later, how have I been getting on? I’ve laid out some of my thoughts below, followed by a large(!) selection of images taken with the A7r2. I’ve tried to show a wide range of wedding related situations in particular those relying on moment & movement, as well as contextual shots, details, formals etc…
IMAGE QUALITY
BIG FILES! At weddings I shoot A LOT and to be honest, 42 megapixels is overkill for my needs. Yes it allows for wild cropping but I can count the number of times I’ve taken advantage of that on one hand. I hope Sony release an A7iii with a 24 megapixel BSI sensor and the phase detect/contrast detect focusing system from the A7rII. The large file sizes can take a while to write to the card and there is a bit of a delay when zooming into previews on the back LCD. The a7s with its 12mp sensor feels a lot more responsive when viewing and zooming into previews.
Shooting D4 and D4s, I’m familiar with Sony sensors, but this BSI sensor is really something else. Although I don’t need 42mp, zooming in 1:1 and gawping at the detail this camera captures is a blast. Colours are fantastic and although auto white balance often leans to warmer temperatures, editing the Sony files are a breeze. I prefer how Sony handles greens – apart from that – very similar to my Nikon editing workflow.
Low light performance is also solid (low light focusing is not so hot) with useable noise performance up to 25,000 ISO. Similar to the D4s when scaled down to match resolution. D4s outclasses the Sony when focusing in low-light.
FOCUS SPEED
Focus speed is a common question, understandably. What is often overlooked is focus ACCURACY. In a nutshell, I would describe the A7rII as excellent focus speed and outstanding focus accuracy. Low-light focusing can be irritatingly unpredictable but in good light, I’ve never found myself thinking the focusing is too slow. The tracking system is not as good as Nikon’s 3D tracking, but situations like walking down the aisle (assuming a well lit venue!) are handled surprisingly well. I still reach for my D4s for confetti shots and any moment with a lot of fast motion. The fast burst rate and more responsive shutter button give me more confidence in these ‘action’ situations. I wish the A7rII had a joystick to move the focus point around. There are so many points, it becomes a chore to move around with the wheels. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony addressed this in the next revision. Although not a deal breaker, it’s my main gripe.
When reviewing in Photo Mechanic, the accuracy of the D4s and A7r2 become apparent. Yes the Nikon generally feels snappier, but the number of missed shots compared to Sony is eye-opening to say the least. Maybe something is awry with my particular D4s? I’ve become accustomed to take at least two photos every time in order to make sure I have a keeper. So confident I have become with the A7r2’s accuracy, it’s rare for me to be double-checking focus on the back of the camera after taking a shot. (Just as well given the delay on zooming into previews!)
Leaving the best until last, Eye-AF. It’s a game changer. The perfect tool for us reportage wedding photographers. As there are so many focus points spreading right across the sensor, composing and framing people shots becomes a lot more fluid and creative. No more fiddling with moving focus points or risking a missed shot by focusing and recomposing just as your subject leans back to laugh.
ERGONOMICS
At first, I was put off by the controls. I still find it more confusing that my Nikons (they have a 6 year head start!). The menu system is a mess so it’s just as well you can customise the buttons so much. I have it setup to feel as similar to my D4s as possible. After 15 weddings, I don’t even think about quickly switching between the Sony and Nikon. The thought of running two different systems was a real off put a few months ago.
Personally, I just love the size and weight of this thing and not only in a ‘my back feels so much better!’ way. It’s not something I’ve considered before, but regardless of how much rapport you build up, guests react differently when you shove a massive camera in their face. My style requires me to get close to my subject, so having a smaller, discreet camera is a real advantage. By using the back LCD to compose shots, not having to bring the camera up to your eye, you can take photos without people noticing. The result? Truer reportage, natural uninhibited emotion.
The downside of the small size and weight? Battery life! I get through 5-6 batteries per wedding. Not that swapping batteries is a big deal. It’s as fast as changing lenses and I do that dozens of times every wedding. More irritating is having to rotate and keep track of batteries when charging back at home. Not the end of the world, but certainly not as simple as only having to charge one D4 battery.
EVF vs OVF (vs LCD)
Unfortunately I never seem to use the EVF, so I’m unable to really comment on its usefulness. Seeing what you are getting in regards of depth of field and exposure obviously has its advantages. 99% of the time I use the rear LCD. It’s added a new dimension to my photography. Flip out the screen and move the camera to places your face can only dream of… ;) Some of my photographer friends have joked about how amateur I must look using ‘live view’ at a wedding. I’ll give them another 12 months to discover for themselves how liberating it feels to not have your eye tied to the back of your camera all day. ;)
LENSES
Good and bad points here. The good points are the lenses, the bad points are the availability of said lenses. I have the Zeiss 35mm 1.4, 55mm 1.8, and more recently the 90mm 2.8 macro. Most of the photos below have been taken on the 35mm 1.4. There are a lot of horror stories about the quality control of these lenses with some (mainly brick wall photographers) complaining of soft corners. My copy doesn’t seem to be affected and as a result, this is possibly my favourite lens EVER. There is a fair bit of chromatic abbrevation in high contrast scenes but nothing that can’t be easily fixed in Lightroom. The colours, the sharpness, the out of focus rendering, all sublime. It’s a fun and addictive lens to use. So that’s my favourite focal length sorted… What about an 85mm? Well, I’m still waiting for the Zeiss Batis 85mm 1.8. It’s been on pre-order since the end of November and still not a peak, so for the time being, I’m stuck with my unreliable(!) but beautiful Nikkor 85mm 1.4. Poor me, eh? ;)
The Sony Zeiss 55mm 1.8 is usually off with Andy (my second shooter) attached to his A7s. The sharpest lenses I’ve worked with and combined with the 42mp sensor the detail is jaw-dropping. Contact me if you want to see a couple of full resolution photos from this combination.
My 90mm macro is too new for me to comment on its quality. Focusing speed is certainly slower than the 35 and 55, with a lot of hunting in low light. From what I have seen so far, this is another exceptionally sharp lens with a distinctive, dreamy rendering. Maybe I will add to this once I’ve played with it more.
FUTURE PLANS
For now, I am happy with my D4s / A7r2 combo. It’d be amazing to shed the weight of the D4s – I feel there are still areas where it comprehensively beats the Sony, having both gives me the best of both DSLR and mirrorless worlds. With the rate Sony is developing and advancing mirrorless technology I can’t see these DSLR advantages lasting for too much longer… And I can’t wait!
Over the course of the 15 weddings (and two engagements) I have shot with my Sony, it has become my main camera. At this moment I find myself taking more photos on it than my D4s! I had not intended this to happen, the A7r2 was always supposed to be my secondary camera, replacing my ageing D4 and saving a bit of weight in the process. The bottom line is that I feel more creative with the A7rII and the way it has quickly and unconsciously overshadowed my D4s is a testament to how good this little camera really is.
If you actually got this far – congratulations! :D I’ll leave you to the images. Please bear in mind that almost 80% of them were taken with the 35mm, 9% with the 55mm and one or two with the 90mm macro. :)
Aga x
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Aga Tomaszek – South Wales Wedding Photographer
Aga thank you for sharing your thoughts! I like your photos! nice colors.
Lovely images and great review of I camera I love too!
just amazing Aga. Love your posts along with a nice cup of coffee ;) questions if I may – does the sony have dual memory card slots ? and who do you use to sell your Nikon equipment ? keep up the amazing work and keep posting x
Hiya Paul, no they don’t! It’s a shame as it makes us feel as though if one card fails we are in serious trouble. But the matter is that the SD cards corrupt very rarely and to not be able to recover the files is almost unheard of (unless you lose the card of course). Also very rarely the error happens during the copying files from the card onto hard drives which is why we must ALWAYS look at the images after they’ve been copied (in Photo Mechanic, Lightroom, Bridge etc… ) as well as copy them onto at least two separate location. x
Thanks Aga, lovely write up and these images are sublime! You need to run some wedding photography courses. I’ll sign up! :)
I’ll keep you in mind if I ever make such {mad} decision! ;)
Oh… GREAT post Aga – so interesting to read and incredible quality of images from the Sony! Loved your commend about looking unprofessional using live view – your images tell the true story, just brilliant. Thanks so much for sharing x
Thank you Helen! The girls had a play with he sony during our Xmas social, shame you couldn’t make it! I will probably post this link in our group, although it may be a bit too geeky for most ;)
What a fabulous review and what simply amazing pictures! You should really be a new Sony ambassador :) Thank you so much for sharing this compilation of breathtaking images… Can’t wait for May!!!
I very much doubt it Christina, my English is too broken ;) I CAN NOT WAIT FOR MAY!!!
I’ve been waiting for a no BS review for the while and this hit the nail on the head. I especially like how you’ve said you use the screen a lot for candids. I’ve been doing the same lately on the D750 (but i hate everything else about the camera) and its got me some great candids for weddings and events. Id love an a7rII as a second/third camera, especially for the focus peaking ability, but i can’t quite pry myself from the D810 yet. Great review aga!
Thanks Jonathan! Yes I know where you’re coming from, totally. How about leaving the D750 at home and going D810 and A7RII? :P
I’ve just got another D810, my sensible head is on, i think id be killed for having a completely new system :-P It does make me excited to see what sony come up with next though as a fellow geek.
Brilliant word and on the right side of geeky read :-) I would have liked more wall shots though…ha ha!
I’ll get Andrew right on it ;) xx
Great review Aga, I’ve enjoyed your loooong comments and already updated my amazon wish list, Thanks :)
Thanks Marcin! And yeah I know, it’s a bloody essay! Doubt anyone got to the end of the whole thing, too many images there too. OH WELL.
Exciting purchase plans for you then!
I got to the end, and the pictures were incredible. Oh ye of little faith! :)
Great review Aga! I agree with everything you said about A7RII… although I think D750 goes with it really well ;)
Massive thanks Aga. I’ve been having real problems with my back and neck carrying two heavy dslrs and lenses. Also craning neck for 10 hours a day to look in view finder. Was sceptical about smaller Sony cameras, but I think you’ve just sold me:) the photos are so sharp! excited to try one out! Where do you order your lenses from? B&h? Love your work. Holly
Great review Aga, it answered all of the questions I wanted to ask. Seriously tempted by this camera. Those reds are incredible. Interesting that you prefer the Nikon 3D tracking too – I’ve only just started using it, but I was so impressed with yours when I had a play. Lots of food for thought. Stunning images too, naturally!
You’ve just restored my faith in Sony. I was about to abandon ship and jump to Canon or Nikon as I felt the kit I had was inferior and I’m not getting enough of the ‘quality’ I should be. I’m definitely going to look into this for my kit bag now. I’m up for courses as well ?
Great review – the images speak for themselves! I love mine, but haven’t been using it nearly as much as I ought to.
GREAT REVIEW !!
I am not a professional photographer however the environment I shoot is similar to yours (Wedding).
Most of them are family (My kid is now two years old) photos. Mixed of indoors, outdoors and evening (lowlight). Actually I find our house a bit dark after sunset.
I am having a hard time choosing in between A7Rii and A7Sii. I first leaned towards a7sii because the following reasons.
1. Smaller file size. I think I would barely print over 24*36.
2. Better lowlight performance. (Especially lowlight AF)
– I think I wouldn’t use ISO over 50000 that often. Maybe occasionally. However, lowlight video capability should be useful in indoors I guess.
However, it seems like if I don’t do too much video (I do some video usually short ones for my family occasions.) the a7rii looks more like a future proof camera due to high pixels. Once I buy the a7rii or the a7sii I wouldn’t replace it within 3-4 years (the avg time I use one camera) I guess.
**Q. If you were me which one would you go with!?
PS.I also own the fe 35 f1.4 and love it as well!!
Hey Peter,
I’ve not used the a7sII (I have the first version) so can’t really be much help. AF in lowlight is a bit better on the a7s, however in all other situations, the a7rII is in another league!
Once you scale down the rII photos to match the sII size, lowlight quality is very similar indeed – I’d go with the a7rII, or if you’re not in a rush to upgrade, maybe see what Sony comes up with later this year.
Thanks! Your reply did help. :D
And again, your pics have stories. Great work. I do adore them!
The GM 85 1.4 is announced! As a wedding photographer, which would you go with?
Batis 85 F/1.8 or the GM 85 F/1.4?
Hey Aga, Thats a great review there and you’ve let the images do the talking :)
Do you have any feedback to give on the flash systems ? Did you get to try them or were all these images captured using ambient light sans any fill or bounce ?
Great review and great work Aga. Thank you so much for the write up. I’m just about to make the move from Canon 5D’s to the Sony a7rII. So really appreciate the info. Great help :)
Hello, I would love to also see the photos taken with the a7s please. I’m loving your work. Your captures elude so much emotion. Thank you for your thoughts and sharing your art.
DANGIT. YOU ARE TEMPTING ME TO SWITCH
Hello Aga, very nice pic and reviews! Thank you. I am a Nikon user and planning to shift to Sony. My only concern is using on/off camera flash. Due to my event job nature I usually use two flash at the same time, one is on the camera, another off camera triggered by pocketwizard and sometimes needs TTL. I am quite concern about the power of sony flash and limited choice of wireless trigger that are compactable with sony. May I know if you use flash with the a7Rii in wedding? Or the high iOS ability of A7Rii makes using flash unnecessary? Mind sharing your habits or thoughts on that?Thanks a lot.
Hi Aga, great review and you show that every camera has its problems and you just have to work out what works for you. I have now been using the Sonys for over a year and i am very happy with them. My main concerns are battery life and file size on A7rii. I was thinking of getting the Batis 25mm and shooting it on crop mode to get the sizes down at that 35mm FOV I love (37.5mm). However I can’t ignore the amazing sony zeiss 35mm 1.4 I think. I now have the 85mm 1.4 and holy cow …wow….. softest bokeh I have ever seen. I also use the 50 1.8, 35mm 2.8 and 16-35mm f4 but love prime look so will look to get the 35m 1.4 soon. I moved from Canon this time last year and in a lot of circumstances the auto focus is much better (not very lowlight), the size and flexibility on the Sonys is worth it alone. Your pictures look amazing can i ask how you edit your photos… what is your workflow, presets etc .
thanks for the wonderful review and photos :)
been waiting for this feedback from you for a long time already and it was worth the wait
just wondering how would you pair your sony with the nikon? sony + 35mm and nikon with 50mm?
cheers
Wow! Great Review! Love the detail! You’re really good at what you do. Could you send me some RAW pictures that you’ve taken with the Sony Zeiss 55mm 1.8? I’d love to play around with it in Photoshop and see what it looks like.
Hi Agatha, I met you at Nelia & Kathryn’s wedding at Huntsham Court and I was burning to ask you about the Sony, but it wasn’t the time or place. Your write-up says it all. A great accomplishment by Sony. What wins the day, however, is your photography; the ability to see a picture, find the light, capture the moment and tell the story is just amazing. Can’t wait to see the Huntsham pictures.
Hello, with the release of Firmware 2.0, the older A7II became exacly what you’re asking for and costs half the price of A7RII “… I hope Sony release an A7iii with a 24 megapixel BSI sensor and the phase detect/contrast detect focusing system from the A7rII….”
Hey Aga, great review! Finally someone showcasing how great the A7Rii is in wedding situations. Your photos look amazing. I used the 35mm 1.4 Zeiss exclusively until recently when the 50mm 1.4 Zeiss came out. Are all these images edited with a preset or are they all your custom work through lightroom? I adjust my picture profile so my JPEGs are full of life like your images above. Do you have any advise on in camera settings?
A hobbyist here who happens to own A7Rii. Love images you captured with this camera. Are you using a Deep or Vivid creative style?
Hi Aga, I was just thinking about another camera and was consireding full frame Sony as an companion to our d750 and browsing through the web to find your website. Another great and inspirational wedding photographer in UK ! your work is outstanding. Pozdrawiamy :)
Haha, dziekuje serdecznie Piotrek i pozdrawiam wiosennie z poludniowej Walii! Sony daje czadu, czekamy teraz na A9! :) xxx
Awesome stuff, I know you covered the auto focus part but I’m torn between both the S mk2 or the R mk2.
How do you find yourself with auto focus in those receptions when it is dimly lit. Does the R mk2 struggle?
Great pictures. I know that you didn’t used 85mm lense but can you tell me what us your favourite sony 85mm (batis 1.8 or sony gmaster 1.4? Thanks
Great article! I’d love to hear what you think about the new sony a7iii. Beautiful photos by the way!!!
great article. ive just got the A9 and I have fallen in love with it!